Hand over encrypted data.

[jim bell]

Australia poised to force tech firms to hand over encrypted data
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/australia-poised-force-tech-firms-hand-over-encrypted-224740050--finance.html

[Steven Schear]

Anyone who ever thought E2E was only for criminals and activists may now
think twice.

Australia poised to force tech firms to hand over encrypted datahttps://finance.yahoo.com/news/australia-poised-force-tech-firms-hand-over-encrypted-224740050--finance.html

[John Young]

Hasn't it been the case almost since day one of crypto wars to expect
authorities to limit its use, adjusting prohibitions, warnings, dire
threats, legislation as new means of crypto are deployed?

And "new" means are continually being developed, and many of them
quickly expropriated by contracts with authorities.

Coders and developers switch sides from being poor to be rather well
to do. Quite a few cypherpunks have followed this path, and why not
"get real," with aging, families, debts and envy of the success of
those who switch sides, get bought out, sign up for lucrative
speaking fees, promulgate reasons for being cooperative rather than
confrontational.

Is there any currently popular crypto/comsec/infosec product not
subject to this "go along to get along?"

Cybersecurity coupld with cyberfailure are fantastic cash cows,
golden gooses, gold rushes. Assange has reportedly become a
millionaire twice over, and a large portion of that is assumed to be
laundered official money, as tax write-off or simply dirty.

But that is the industry standard of security in all it versions.
Keep it secret, blow theats and safety at consumers and citizenry.

Smartest cybersecurity developers are working for totalizing "smart"
to every spot on online and on earth, in every head and home. While
preaching privacy protection with latest porous prophylactics, once
called backdoors, confessionals, prayers, trust in deity. Now called
upgrades and sure-fire, ever better, ways to excuse failure, maintain
faith in a reputation in a brand.

Built-in failure by the most trusted, surely not that. Send
conributions here to keep up the fight.

And don't ever go off on your own, experts must review your shit for
golden nuggets. Do expose your best to conferences, believe in open
source review, seek investors, crowd-fund, stay fucked.

Post by jim bell
Australia poised to force tech firms to hand over encrypted data
<https://finance.yahoo.com/news/australia-poised-force-tech-firms-hand-over-encrypted-224740050--finance.html>https://finance.yahoo.com/news/australia-poised-force-tech-firms-hand-over-encrypted-224740050--finance.html

[Alfie John]

The Bill passed both the lower and upper house late today. Expecting Royal Assent tomorrow.

Alfie

Sent from my iPhone

Hasn't it been the case almost since day one of crypto wars to expect authorities to limit its use, adjusting prohibitions, warnings, dire threats, legislation as new means of crypto are deployed?
And "new" means are continually being developed, and many of them quickly expropriated by contracts with authorities.
Coders and developers switch sides from being poor to be rather well to do. Quite a few cypherpunks have followed this path, and why not "get real," with aging, families, debts and envy of the success of those who switch sides, get bought out, sign up for lucrative speaking fees, promulgate reasons for being cooperative rather than confrontational.
Is there any currently popular crypto/comsec/infosec product not subject to this "go along to get along?"
Cybersecurity coupld with cyberfailure are fantastic cash cows, golden gooses, gold rushes. Assange has reportedly become a millionaire twice over, and a large portion of that is assumed to be laundered official money, as tax write-off or simply dirty.
But that is the industry standard of security in all it versions. Keep it secret, blow theats and safety at consumers and citizenry.
Smartest cybersecurity developers are working for totalizing "smart" to every spot on online and on earth, in every head and home. While preaching privacy protection with latest porous prophylactics, once called backdoors, confessionals, prayers, trust in deity. Now called upgrades and sure-fire, ever better, ways to excuse failure, maintain faith in a reputation in a brand.
Built-in failure by the most trusted, surely not that. Send conributions here to keep up the fight.
And don't ever go off on your own, experts must review your shit for golden nuggets. Do expose your best to conferences, believe in open source review, seek investors, crowd-fund, stay fucked.

Post by jim bell
Australia poised to force tech firms to hand over encrypted data
<https://finance.yahoo.com/news/australia-poised-force-tech-firms-hand-over-encrypted-224740050--finance.html>https://finance.yahoo.com/news/australia-poised-force-tech-firms-hand-over-encrypted-224740050--finance.html

[jd.cypherpunks]

Yes - that's the way it is.

-------- UrsprÃŒngliche Nachricht --------Von: John Young <***@pipeline.com> Datum: 06.12.18 14:40 (GMT+01:00) An: ***@lists.cpunks.org Betreff: Re: Hand over encrypted data.
Hasn't it been the case almost since day one of crypto wars to expect
authorities to limit its use, adjusting prohibitions, warnings, dire
threats, legislation as new means of crypto are deployed?

And "new" means are continually being developed, and many of them
quickly expropriated by contracts with authorities.

Coders and developers switch sides from being poor to be rather well
to do. Quite a few cypherpunks have followed this path, and why not
"get real," with aging, families, debts and envy of the success of
those who switch sides, get bought out, sign up for lucrative
speaking fees, promulgate reasons for being cooperative rather than
confrontational.

Is there any currently popular crypto/comsec/infosec product not
subject to this "go along to get along?"

Cybersecurity coupld with cyberfailure are fantastic cash cows,
golden gooses, gold rushes. Assange has reportedly become a
millionaire twice over, and a large portion of that is assumed to be
laundered official money, as tax write-off or simply dirty.

But that is the industry standard of security in all it versions.
Keep it secret, blow theats and safety at consumers and citizenry.

Smartest cybersecurity developers are working for totalizing "smart"
to every spot on online and on earth, in every head and home. While
preaching privacy protection with latest porous prophylactics, once
called backdoors, confessionals, prayers, trust in deity. Now called
upgrades and sure-fire, ever better, ways to excuse failure, maintain
faith in a reputation in a brand.

Built-in failure by the most trusted, surely not that. Send
conributions here to keep up the fight.

And don't ever go off on your own, experts must review your shit for
golden nuggets. Do expose your best to conferences, believe in open
source review, seek investors, crowd-fund, stay fucked.

Post by jim bell
Australia poised to force tech firms to hand over encrypted data
<https://finance.yahoo.com/news/australia-poised-force-tech-firms-hand-over-encrypted-224740050--finance.html>https://finance.yahoo.com/news/australia-poised-force-tech-firms-hand-over-encrypted-224740050--finance.html